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Our 2CV Restoration (Part 4) Print E-mail
Written by Administrator   
Friday, 08 July 2011

What is happening to the restoration I hear you ask.

 

Although I haven't posted any updates for over a year, things have moved forward with the 2CV.  The new floor has been fitted, new sills, rear seatbelt mounts, lower section of 'B' posts replaced, bottom of front panels replaced, nearside rear window opening repaired, seat box section replaced, bottom of front footwell replaced, splits in bulkhead around battery mounting brazed.  The next job was to repair below the front vent flap which on investigation proved to be totally rotten.  A repair had been done previously to the bonnet hinge which had been replaced.  It was pop riveted on and then covered in fibre glass mat and filler which hid the poor condition of the metal underneath.  Once this was removed, I discovered why we used to get wet feet whenever it rained.  All of the metal under the dash had rotted!! 

 

New sections have been fabricated to replace the rotten metal.

 

On reading the restoration book, there was a comment regarding the lower windscreen in that it was found to be rotten when the windscreen was removed.  Guess what, I found the same problem.  All rotten metal was removed and a new section fabricated.  This has been brazed in and again, will require filling.  

 

I said in an earlier post that I would have the rest of the panels blasted and phosphated such as the doors etc.  This has now been done.  Although the doors are not too bad, the bottoms will need to be repaired where the rubber weatherstrip is retained.

 

The body has now been taken off the chassis and was turned upside down.  All seams have been sealed with Sikoflex and the whole of the underside has been painted, before being given a liberal coat of Tetroseal underseal.  Where the back of thebody attached to the chassis (in the boot section), there was rop around the mountings.  The rotten metal was cut out and the top and bottom of the mountings has had thick steel plates fitted to give them more strength.  There were some small rust holes in the boot which have been repaired with brazing.

 

A small job was to restore the wing mirrors by replacing the old hard plastic with a silicon rubber replacement.  These were purchased from http://www.retrospecparts.com and are advertised under the brand name of Mirrorcool.   As the mirrors and arms were in good shape, replacing the surround has made them look like new.  It was a fiddle to do, but is you follow the video that is on the website, it works.  The important thing is as they say, even if the rubber looks as though it is too long, do not cut it down.

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Window Surround
Window Surround
Window Surround
New Floor
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'B' Post
 'B' Post
 Seatbelt Mount
 Seatbelt Mount
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'C' Post
  Seatbelt Mount  Seatbelt Mount
Hinge Rot
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Hinge Rot 
 Hinge Rot Hinge Rot 
Hinge Rot 
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New Bits Bulkhead
Bits Fitted
 Bits Fitted Bits Fitted
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 Bits Fitted Bits Fitted
Bits Fitted
Bits Fitted
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Upside Down
Wheelarch
View Of Floor
Another View
 
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  And from The Front
 And the Side
 
 
 

Last Updated ( Monday, 11 June 2012 )
 
Our 2CV Restoration (Part 3) Print E-mail
Written by Administrator   
Wednesday, 30 June 2010
OK, it's been a while!!  The winter was cold and I didn't feel like freezing to death in the garage working on the 2CV.  Then came the spring and our garden (1.5 acres) required a lot of attention and time.  Enough of the excuses Embarassed
 
I have now uploaded some photos of the various parts purchased from Cassis and ECAS.
 
I have had the wings, bonnet, boot lid and a few other small pieces blasted and phosphated.  After much searching to find a sandblaster that could do car panels without destroying them, I finally found someone in Caen who could.  Interestingly, it was in the prison workshop.  I turned up with the panels in the back of our car and was chased out by two gendarmes.  Apparently, I should have made a rendevous which I subsequently did.  They have done a beautiful job on everything and no blasting damage.  I have to say the panels are in much better condition than I thought they would be.  All have now been given a coat of a zinc based primer until I am ready to paint them.  I will probably have the doors done as well, rather than have the tedious job of sanding them down.
 
Now the photos:
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I have discovered the art of plug welding using my MIG welder.  For those whose don't know, it almost replicates the original spot welding that was used when the car was first made in the factory.  I have never done in before and with not being an experienced welder I couldn't believe how quickly I mastered it.   The guide I used can be found at the MIG Welding website.  I found this to be absolutely invaluable.  When I bought my secondhand MIG several years ago, I couldn't work out why the tip had two prongs on it.  I have now discovered it is for plug welding.  Some photos below of my efforts on the front floor box section and the rear seat platform. At this stage, no cleaning up has been done to the welds.
 
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Not a bad job, even if I do say so myself!!
 
More money spent
 
 
Description
Part Number
(pounds) Cost
Seat belt anchorage repair panel inner rear wing 2cv left.
REP07
18.60
Seat belt anchorage repair panel inner rear wing 2cv right. REP08
18.60
Gutter trim chrome plastic embellishment moulding, 2cv, pair 1125P 12.00
Repair panel for bottom of A panel 2cv left
REP29 9.95
Repair panel for bottom of A panel 2cvright REP30 9.95
Fitting kit to hang torpedo silencer from 2cv floor. 3040K 14.75
Hanger, rubber ring, around ends of torpedo. (2)
15125 4.40
Indicator repeater light for rear of front wing 2cv. 503138 37.90
     
Total:    126.15
 
 
Description
 Part Number  (Euros)Cost
Nuts for headlamps (2)
 2301720  3.50
Washers for headlamp (2)
 2105097  4.84
Left front indicator
 2104010  19.73
Right front indicator
 2104011  19.73
Chassis captive nuts for body to chassis 
 1007140  13.20
     
Totals:    61.00
 
Other bits and pieces: (Converted to pounds)
 
Sandblasting
165.00
Paint including zinc primer, filler primer, midnight blue, cream. 118.59
Portable brazing kit
 75.00
   
Total:
 268.59
 
Running total in Pounds: £1166.71
 
Hopefully, now I have got a head of steam up the work will progress more rapidly.
Last Updated ( Wednesday, 30 June 2010 )
 
Our 2CV Restoration (Part 2) Print E-mail
Written by Administrator   
Wednesday, 28 October 2009
It's taken a bit longer than I originally thought, but at last an update.
 
I have now started stripping the car down to see what the total extent of the rust damage is.

Along with what I had already discovered, there is bad corrosion at the rear particularly where the seat belt anchorages are.  Interestingly, the bump stop mounting are in good condition with no rot around them.  Although the seat belt mountings are bad, I have decided not to replace the complete inner wings, but will fabricate repair panels and weld them in.  Also, although I have bought complete 'B-Posts' I will probably only use the bottom sections of them because of the possible difficulties of removing the original door lock and upper seat belt mounts and getting them in the correct position.

You will see from the photos below the extent of the problems!!
 
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 Rear Nearside Window
Rear Nearside Seatbelt Mount
Rear Nearside Seat Box Section
Rear Nearside Seat Box Section 
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Nearside 'B-Post' Bottom
Nearside Lower Bulkhead/Floor
 Nearside Lower Bulkhead/Floor Rear Nearside Inner Wing
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Rear Offside Seatbelt Mount
Rear Offside Sill
Rear Offside Inner Wing
Offside Lower Bulkhead/Floor
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Offside 'A-Post' Bottom Offside 'B-Post' Bottom
Rear Offside Seat Box Section
Front Panel Below Vent Flap

 

Having looked at the car more thoroughly, I have purchased the following parts:

 

From ECAS I bought:(Prices in pounds)
 
Description  Part Number
(Pounds) Cost
Rubber gaiter around fuel filler neck to wing  G1715                   £6.62
Bonnet catch assembly, 2cv6 etc., complete  6137B  £28.60
Gris roues, aerosol for wheels and bumpers 400ml (2 Cans)  690  £16.40
Set screw, plated, 11mm head, M7 x 1.00, 25mm long, Per 25 (2 Boxes)  SS725  £14.68
Nut, plated, 11mm hex, M7 x 1.00mm pitch. Per 50 pieces.
 NT7100  £3.90
Washer, plated, Citroën type, 7.5mm hole x 14mm. Per 50  W714 £ 6.82
Total    £77.02
 
From Cassis:  (Prices in Euros)
 
 
Description Part Number

(Euros) Cost

 

Rear wing fixing kit                                                                             2300665

12.38

Plastic join for rear wing 2300662

8.11

Rear wing lower clip 2300670

2.80

Front floor cover plugs 3336088 4.04
Sill Trim Clips 2301911 6.20
Bonnet Stop Rubbers (Bonnet) 2902022 2.02
Bonnet Stop Rubbers (Bumper) 2901400 2.02
Large nut Front wing 2301720 13.20
Front Mudflap Left 2301635 4.40
Front Mudflap Right 2301835 4.40
Mudflap Rivets 2301850 3.10
Rear Seat Repair Section Top 3336044 47.40
Rear Seat End Left 3336060 17.70
Rear Seat End Right 3336061 17.70
Rear Seat Bottom 3336046 20.95
Overider Rubbers 2107035 15.10
Black Tape Front Bumper 2107038 2.20
Bonnet Sound Proofing 2901205 31.94
Centre Post Hinge Plug 3335180 2.02
Body Mounting Foam 2302098 11.66
Total    229.34
 
 

Running total in pounds: £720.97

 

I still have the paint to buy and will publish the cost when I know what it is.

 

When I have all of the panels, I will put some photos up.

 

'Til the next time

 

 

Last Updated ( Wednesday, 28 October 2009 )
 
Our 2CV Restoration (Part 1) Print E-mail
Written by Administrator   
Tuesday, 22 September 2009
Our 2cv is starting to look a little sad and is in need of some TLC.
 
Over this winter, I propose to replace the sills, floors, A posts and front lower bulkhead as the rust has unfortunately taken it's toll.  As the car has already been fitted with a galvanised chassis, I feel it is worthwhile bringing the rest of the bodywork up to scratch.  All the panels that I can see need replacing have been purchased, either from ECAS in the UK or Cassis in France.  I already have a reasonably equipped workshop which includes a MIG welder.  Ideally, it would be nice to have a spot welder as well, but for the project I can't really justify the cost.
 
During the project I will include photos and costs as it progresses.
 
No photos at this stage, but hopefully in the next week or two.
 
Costs so far:
 
The book by Lindsay Porter How To Restore a Citroen 2CV :  £27.99 from Amazon. 
 
This book is an absolute must if you are thinking of doing any restoration work on a 2CV.  The photos are brilliant and have given me a great insight in what needs to be done and how to do it.
 
From ECAS I bought:
 
Description   Part Number  Cost (Pounds)
 Front floor (lower bulkhead) REP05  £34.26
 Pair of floor panels 95264ZP    £89.00

     

 
Description  Part Number  Cost (Euros)
 Left Sill  3335150  38.50
 Right Sill  3335151  38.50
 Left Door Pillar  3335170  64.95
 Right Door Pillar  3335171  64.95
 2 Upright Repair Sections  3335191  80.80
 2 Gussets  3335110  4.09
 Bonnet Catch  2901240  9.50
 
Miscellaneous
 
Auto Darkening Welding Mask On Ebay £23.95
 
Total Spend to date:
 
Sterling £175.20
Euros      301.29 (About £273 at todays exchange rate)
 
More next time.
Last Updated ( Wednesday, 28 October 2009 )
 
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